Does o4-mini count? If so, this can probably resolve YES.

@jim Ping. Can you clarify what you would count as an announcement?

@TimothyJohnson5c16 hmm it's just a sama tweet at this point, right? Seems borderline

@TimothyJohnson5c16 like, he's just saying that 4o is coming. But he also said that gpt-5 is coming. Is got 5 announced?

@jim it’s possible to have an announcement of an announcement (I don’t mean here, just in general). Saying something will be released is not necessarily the “announcement” imo

@jim They've been talking about GPT-5 for months now, but I don't think it counts without some more specific details.

Bayesian's market requires some description of capabilities, which is I think is a better bar than just knowing that a model exists or is being trained.

If they keep counting by 2s and call it o5 how does this resolve?

that counts

@jim wtf