By when will OpenAI broadly release the model expected to be called GPT-5?
By when will OpenAI broadly release the model expected to be called GPT-5?
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OpenAI is expected to release a new flagship model called GPT-5 sometime this year or early next year, although Sam Altman has said that he's not sure if they'll actually call it GPT-5.

This market will resolve based on the official, confirmed public release of that anticipated model. If it is not named GPT-5 then Altman/OpenAI must make it clear that it is the same anticipated model which everyone has been expecting to be called GPT-5. If this is not clear, a model not named GPT-5 will not count for this resolution.

A test release like the GPT2 chatbots put up on Chatbot Arena before the release of GPT-4o would not count for this market, and neither would something like the preview release of GPT-4 through Microsoft Azure. This market requires a broad, official release which is either free or available at a reasonable cost like through a GPT plus membership.

These exact resolution criteria may be updated to better match the spirit of the question, and your suggestions are welcome in the comments.

All options in this market resolve NO as that month arrives until the anticipated model is broadly released and all remaining options then resolve YES.

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14d

This doesn't have anything to do with resolution, but I find it funny that the model that was expected to be called GPT-5 (by the people who created it) was already released, but they called it GPT-4.5 because it wasn't impressive enough.

By November, I was pretty strongly expecting the Orion model to be released in February, and I nailed it. But they didn't put the GPT-5 brand name on it in the end, so I lost out. 🥲

14d

@Haiku [citation needed]

@jim I was just being chatty, but since you asked so nicely, I went and found one. 😄

https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/openai-gpt5-orion-delays-639e7693

Edit: two, to connect 4.5 to Orion as well.

https://techcrunch.com/2025/02/27/openai-unveils-gpt-4-5-orion-its-largest-ai-model-yet/

14d

@Haiku But is GPT-4.5 100x the training compute/FLOPs of GPT-4? My impression was that it's more likely only 10x, and so 4.5 is quite well deserved. And GPT-4o is not 4.5, because it's only ~2x (I think slightly less, but I can't remember the exact estimate from EpochAI).

Of course the actual amounts for 4.5 are unconfirmed, but just in terms of what's most likely the correct ballpark I think 10 >>> 100 (but am open to changing my mind based on evidence)

oh never mind, the guy has a relevant calculation somewhere I think, but I don't have the time to search for it

1mo

I think with the disappointment of gpt4.5 OpenAI may delay the release of gpt-5 until they can be sure it's really good

filled a Ṁ110 Before October 2025 YES at 89% order1mo

1mo

@adssx I hope you know that if the original tweeter had instead asked, “Weeks? Months? Years?”, then Altman would have answered, “weeks / months / years”.

1mo

@NBAP The slash in SamA's tweet refers to the slash in Chubby's tweet. He didn't mean they would both be released in a matter of weeks or months, but that GPT-4.5 would be release in a matter of weeks and GPT-5 would be released in a matter of months.

1mo

@Haiku Yeah, it’s possible that’s what he meant, given that it seems to actually be the case. But it would also be entirely in character for him to just be shitposting.

@NBAP Yeah, I hate that I have to agree with you there. 🥲

2mo

@ManifoldAI can you add options or no?

answered10mo
Before December 2024
3mo

@mods This also resolves NO.

answered10mo
Before October 2024
5mo

@mods This one resolves NO.

@mods "Before November 2024" also resolves No now.

5mo

@yetforever and so it shall be

answered10mo
Before October 2024
bought Ṁ144 Before October 2024 NO5mo

@ManifoldAI Please resolve to NO

sold Ṁ62 Before February 2025 NO6mo

Does o1-preview count?

6mo

I am somewhat annoyed that “give the public API access to a model which has not been released and has no plans to be released” is referred to here as “releasing” the model... the title and odds together got my hopes up for a minute. 😔

8mo

I'm not sure I follow, are you making some sort of point about GPT models not being open source?

It’s hard for the neural networks to be open-source (I'm sure OpenAI themselves probably doesn’t even keep their own “source code” lest they get caught red-handed with a provenance trail for scraped YouTube videos and pirated text bodies); I wasn’t implying anything about that.

I was referring to release of the models, actually physically publishing the weights and biases — releasing the model, as opposed to an API that provides limited access to the model.

9mo

Why did this close @ManifoldAI ? Should it be extended

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