Will circumcision be abolished by 2050?
Will circumcision be abolished by 2050?
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Elon Musk announced he is planning to "actively lobby" for legal changes that would by description include criminalizing circumcision:

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It exist now.

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Interestingly, every time circumcision has been banned, it has been followed by fervent persecution of Jews.

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@xyz Why would that be? Is it because banning circumcision causes antisemitism? Or is it because jurisdictions that are insensitive enough to Judaism to ban circumcision are also insensitive enough to persecute them? Or is it simply because banning circumcision is itself considered persecution?

I don't know how to resolve this issue at all in my mind. While I am quite inclined to believe it is an unnecessary procedure outside of a religious context, I also don't know how to effect any sort of positive change, and also [Chesterton's Fence].

While I literally bought into predicting its banning, what I meant was that there would be likely be a definitive cultural shift in attitude towards the practice secularly.

So, I guess I'm going to realize some losses here and sell, because while I believe the issue needs further examinination, I'm not trying to inflame a controversy that seems to go back millenia.

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@xyz but that's a good thing. The nazis in holocaust photos are wearing soviet uniforms.

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@xyz Do you have any proof of that ?
I mean, not cases where the Jews were persecuted, and then there were a ban on circumcision, but the opposite : The Jews weren’t persecuted, then there were a ban on circumcision, and then it is followed by persecutions.

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Iceland banned circumcision then killed six gorillion jews

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Or better yet, any way to shows a plausible causal link from the ban to antisemitism.

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@DenisBaudouin I’m not a historian myself, but take it from historian Michael Livingston: "In Jewish history, the banning of circumcision (brit mila) has historically been a first step toward more extreme and violent forms of persecution".

Iceland didn’t ban circumcision.

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Snip, snip, chop, chop,
To circumcise or not, we can't stop.
Medical benefits or genital mutilation?
Let's cut to the chase, it's a heated conversation.

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sorry i offended you by disagreeing with an event i did not consent to

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@Gigacasting Was some comments deleted ?

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acknowledging my bias here: over a long enough time frame, "should happen" becomes "will happen"

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What do you mean by "abolish"? Made illegal? Abandoned voluntarily? If the latter, does the frequency of the procedure have to be actually zero, or just very low? And in either case, what locality is your question about? The US? The entire world?

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@akrasiac They added the question to the US Politics group, implying an answer to one of your questions at least

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WTF is this image

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Where?

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Sadly no.

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